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Time to nut up?

PostPosted by verdilak » Sun Nov 14, 2010 2:57 am

Johnnyedge checked the TSA's website and learned that the San Diego airport had not yet implemented its porno-scanners, so he went down to catch his flight. When he arrived, he discovered that the TSA's website was out of date, and the naked scanners were in place. He opted out of showing his penis to the government, so they told him he'd have to submit to an intimate testicle fondling. He told the screener, "if you touch my junk, I'll have you arrested." After faffing around with various supervisors and supervisors' supervisors, he opted not to fly, collected a refund from the American Airlines counter, and started to leave the airport. But before he could go, the supervisor's supervisor's supervisor told him he wasn't allowed to leave the checkpoint once he entered it, that he was already in for up to $10,000 in fines, and that he would have to return and allow the man's minons to palpate his genitals before he'd be allowed to leave the airport. After he objected, he was left cooling his heels for a long time. Finally, he asked if he was under arrest, and being told that he wasn't, but that he would be sued for $10K if he tried to go, he said, "you bring that suit" and left. Most of the incident was recorded on his phone, and has been posted to YouTube.

Story here: http://johnnyedge.blogspot.com/2010/11/these-events-took-place-roughly-between.html

And one of a woman, who is a rape survivor:

https://pncminnesota.wordpress.com/2010/11/08/rape-survivor-devasted-by-tsa-enhanced-pat-down/ wrote:Celeste is a seasoned air traveler. She estimates that she flies upwards of 60 times a year for her job and she knows all the ins and outs of most airports in the USA. Want to know which airport has the best sushi? Celeste can tell you. What she, and most other people didn’t know, was that on October 29th the TSA changed their security guidelines. “I flew to Chicago with no problems. Everything was the same as before. It was when I attempted to fly back to Minnesota that I found out about TSA’s new rules. What they did to me, in full view of everyone else in line, was like being sexually assaulted all over again. I was in shock. I hate myself that I allowed them to do this to me. I haven’t been able to stop crying since.”

Previously, flyers walked through a metal detector and some persons were randomly selected for a pat-down that avoided the face, genital areas, and hair. This was the procedure that Celeste was familiar with.

Then came the full body scanners, a device that uses powerful advanced imaging technology (AIT) to allow TSA agents to see the naked bodies of travelers. Not only have people expressed concern over being seen naked and having their photos stored in the machine, there are also health concerns from the scanners. Captain Dave Bates, president of the Allied Pilots Association, sent a letter to all 11,000 American Airlines pilots urging them to decline the full body scan, ”It is important to note that there are “backscatter” AIT devices now being deployed that produce ionizing radiation, which could be harmful to your health. “

[Rest of the story at the above link]


This is all just fucking security theatre.

The reason it's labeled "security theatre" isn't just because of how ineffective it is, but because the whole idea of a threat in the first place is imagined. It's playing into people's fears, convincing them they're in danger, and they're ...saving you from it.

In reality, there are countless other targets that terrorists could strike. They could do more damage in a large subway system, yet you don't have pornoscans at turnstiles. Bridges would be great targets, but you don't need to strip naked to cross a bridge. The unibomber and the anthrax scare were committed in post offices, yet you don't have to have your crotch fondled in public to mail a letter. The OK City bombing was caused by letting a truck park within a block of a government building, why don't we search everyone that comes within a 2 block radius of any building?

It's called security theater because it actually protects no one from anything. The government can't save you from the boogyman, but if they convince you they are, they can take whatever rights they want from you. You have a higher chance of getting struck by lightning on a sunny day than you do of being victim of a terrorist attack. Why not protect people from car crashes instead? Something that's hundreds of millions of times more likely to happen to you? Why not spend millions of dollars and cripple your travel infrastructure to save people from slipping in the shower and breaking their necks? That happens thousands of times each day, whereas terrorist attacks happen once a decade.

I mean, FUCK! Why not go the extreme other way with this? I say the next time they want you to walk through the scanner, strip completely naked in the middle of the airport. I wonder if they would arrest you for public indecency or some such, while they are free and clear to do the same thing through technology that is also harmful to your health.

Total and complete bullshit. And you gotta wonder, what type of person applies for such a job? Do you really want that person anywhere NEAR your or your SO's genitals?
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Re: Time to nut up?

PostPosted by Rayven » Sun Nov 14, 2010 3:03 am

I dunno about you guys, but if I were subject to a search like that, I would likely get arrested for assault from cold-clocking the TSA attendant who grabbed my junk.
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Re: Time to nut up?

PostPosted by verdilak » Sun Nov 14, 2010 3:31 am

I'd be suing them for a number of things. Last I checked, purchasing tickets does not mean you give up your rights to not be sexually assaulted.
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Re: Time to nut up?

PostPosted by verdilak » Sun Nov 14, 2010 3:35 am

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Re: Time to nut up?

PostPosted by Chick » Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:23 pm

Land of the free.. it's right there in your national anthem. Feelin'it?
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Re: Time to nut up?

PostPosted by verdilak » Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:18 pm

Not one bit.
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